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Nov. 1st, 2012 @ 10:35 pm (no subject)
Why the Buffyverse (for me)?

Right now I am regularly watching Dexter, Breaking Bad, Homeland, Face-off, Misfits, Walking Dead, and a few other shows that will remain nameless (because I can’t think what they are) - so why is it only Buffy fic that I like to read, and occasionally dabble in writing?

I have a lot of friends who write and read in other fandoms now - so maybe I should make this a discussion of why any chose hits that special nerve. For me, Spike is a big part because I usually don't read stories without him - is that attraction to a character a deciding factor?.
Story arcs? Philosophy?
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From:velvetwhip
Date:November 2nd, 2012 06:08 am (UTC)
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I watch Major Crimes, NCIS, Law and Order in all its various incarnations... but yeah, BTVS is pretty much it for me when it comes to fiction.


Gabrielle
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From:spikesjojo
Date:November 2nd, 2012 08:03 am (UTC)
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You like Willow, I know. Is it a need/sensation/thought/combination of those and others?


I know one thing I like about Spike is that he is that he's not conflict avoidant - and I spent a lot of my life thinking the the same kind of snarky things he says but not verbalizing those thoughts. Now that I can, and it's fun, I call it channeling my inner Spike. But I don't think I would like him in a vacuum - one character has never kept me hooked on any show - so it's more than that.
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From:velvetwhip
Date:November 2nd, 2012 01:05 pm (UTC)
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Willow, Angel, and Spike. All three characters really captivate me and they feel so much larger than just what we saw on the show. I think that's what draws me to them as both a writer and a reader - there's so much room for them to continue to be explored.


Gabrielle
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From:spikesjojo
Date:November 3rd, 2012 10:32 am (UTC)
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I agree with you on that one - so much room for them to continue to be explored. That might be the most important factor. I know part of why I like Spangel is that any relationship that lasts over a century has to have depths that I can never hope to truly comprehend. So that makes it a challenge, and it give me so many questions to ponder.

I'd even go further and say holes and inconsistencies help with coming up with stories.
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From:velvetwhip
Date:November 3rd, 2012 06:12 pm (UTC)
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I'd even go further and say holes and inconsistencies help with coming up with stories.

I agree with that completely. Again, that creates inspiring possibilities for us as writers, doesn't it?


Gabrielle
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From:spikesjojo
Date:November 3rd, 2012 09:16 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, that's where a lot of stories lie - in the cracks between what was said and how to make sense of it.
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From:kudagirl
Date:November 2nd, 2012 11:02 am (UTC)
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I watch lots of other TV shows, but have never felt I understood the characters the way I do in Buffy/ATS. I think after the show ended, we wanted more. It inspired us in many ways.

I think there was a lot of subtext that inspired the fans. One small scene or even a sentence can create a bunny that leads to a story or piece of art.

Many of us find a kindred spirit with one or more of the characters. We understand their actions or feelings. It bonds us to that character. I feel that with Spike.

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From:spikesjojo
Date:November 3rd, 2012 10:37 am (UTC)
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Subtext exactly! Each character was so much more than the show could explore. I agree that a line, a look, a small scene with a bit of ambiguity can be a treasure trove.

As a voracious reader of fanfic, I also like the fact that there are so many ways of taking these off in different directions. Sometimes I like hardcore dark stories but then I usually want something lighter and more loving, then I may want a Mithril like story that includes a detailed culture, and then a small but perfect jewel that touches my heart. It's all out there like a fruit basket of win.
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From:dragonyphoenix
Date:November 2nd, 2012 02:23 pm (UTC)
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This is an excellent question. While I've written a few stories for other fandoms, Buffy is what I always come back to. I don't know why that is though.

It is the first one I wrote for, about six months after my mother died. Perhaps with reviewing episodes for stories I'm just very familiar with the characters.
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From:spikesjojo
Date:November 3rd, 2012 10:40 am (UTC)
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I think that this universe taps into an emotional wealth that I don't find in many universes. Since every character went through so many changes there are all sorts of nexus points to explore.

I am sorry about your mum - I'm two days away from the anniversary of my father's death. For me it was ending up on disability. Somehow throwing myself into the Buffyverse was both an escape and a way to release some of that pain.
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From:dragonyphoenix
Date:November 3rd, 2012 02:10 pm (UTC)
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I'm sorry to hear about your dad. anniversaries are tough.

Yeah, Buffyverse definitely helps to deal with the pain.
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From:dreamsofspike
Date:November 3rd, 2012 02:49 am (UTC)
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This is definitely a post that makes me think... now I'm analyzing why I've chosen the various fandoms I've loved over the years.

House was the first fandom I branched out into, and it was because of the lead character who was so unbelievably damaged, arrogant yet vulnerable, cynical yet romantic underneath it all - that sucked me in.

How I Met Your Mother - once again, drawn to a character who's intensely damaged/broken, yet with this arrogant facade - a detestable playboy who's secretly a romantic longing to be loved.

In Glee, there's Kurt, who's got that whole confident/vulnerable thing going on, as does Adam Lambert (at least he appears to)... I think for me it all comes down to having a character that fits that particular pattern :)
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From:spikesjojo
Date:November 3rd, 2012 10:47 am (UTC)
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My first fandom - well, the first I wrote in - was Star Trek. Spock - never at home in any culture, never accepted without reservations, damaged by Vulcan standards and a curiosity by human standards.

I've gone from Spock the Vulcan to Spike that vampire - and while they could not possibly be more different, there are still so many ambiguities to explore. I think with Spike we watch his world get destroyed and then see him slowly adapt and rebuild himself.

You put you finger on the traits they share - a lead character who is so unbelievably damaged, arrogant yet vulnerable, cynical yet romantic underneath it all - that sucks me in as well.
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From:livejournal
Date:November 8th, 2012 04:28 am (UTC)

Wednesday, November 7

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User oni_9 referenced to your post from Wednesday, November 7 saying: [...] Why the Buffyverse (for me)? [...]
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From:spikesjojo
Date:November 8th, 2012 06:47 am (UTC)

Re: Wednesday, November 7

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Thanks, Oni ;)